A Welsh Radical PLatform: containing information on history of peoples popular and radical political struggles in Wales, verity of articles with similar themes plus promoting peoples history projects to persue. Not least,radical initiatives for those with an interest in persueing more of an Adfywiad Goch Cymru than a patriotic or republican resurgence.
The 'Battle of Cinder Hill', Rhosllanerchrugog 1830 makes a good potential Companion Commemoration to Merthyr 1831 also Llanidloes and Newport 1839, the 'Red Eighteen Thirties'.
'Battle of Cinder Hill', 1830, DRO NCD/939. John Platt's map of Rhos. .... 1945, DRO DD/DM/128/18-19. History of Rhosllanerchrugog by J Rhosydd Williams ...www.denbighshire.gov.uk/.../55984d6bc8a1906280256af8003b1210?... - Cached
- 08:30At an incident in Rhosllannerchrugog, known as the Battle of Cinder Hill, ... Forces of the British Empire 18 June 2006 archived from the original on 20 ...
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An incident in Rhos was called the Battle of Cinder Hill when overzealous troops had to be brought under control after a demonstrator threw a firework at ... www.wrexham.gov.uk/english/heritage/virtual.../jacket.htm - Cached - Similar
This year we have witnessed in certain 'Nationalist Circles' in North East Wales
the advance of it appears 'Socialist Republican' ideas, these ideas however are
'imports' from connections beween 'Radical Nationalist' groups with Irish & Scottish
'Socialist' Republicans' and not of any Welsh Socialist Tradition which has we see here
is a tradition of the North East. There is a need for Red Remembrancer to remind of this
and further advance Welsh Socialist links between Southern Socialist Red Rembrance
and an advance of a true Radical Red Resurgence in the North East.
'The Riot at Mold, Flintshire', 1869 (wood engraving) published in 'The Illustrated London News' in June 1869. Source: Flintshire Record Office (Item ... www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/Wales.../MoldRiots.htm - Cached - Similar
The Mold Riots The history of the border town of Mold in northeast Wales is fascinating in itself; it is however the events surrounding the summer of 1869... www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/Wales-History/ - Cached
One such conflagration resulted in tragedy and is known as the Mold riot of 1869. Two miners had received a prison sentence for assaulting a coal company ... www.moldweb.co.uk/index.php?About_Mold:History - Cached - Similar
The town grew up around the now ruined Mold Castle, built by Robert de Montalt ... In the summer of 1869 a riot occurred in the town which had considerable ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mold,_Flintshire - Cached - Similar
16 Jul 2003 ... A new play exploring a riot at a colliery in Mold in 1869 which left ... The Mold Riots tells the story of events in 1869 when four miners ... news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north.../3071307.stm - Cached - Similar
4 Feb 2009 ... The Mold Riots 1869. The Leader have an article by Rob Bellis on the Mold Riots. Miners were that mad at a mines manager called Young who ... penyffordd-district.blogspot.com/2009/.../mold-riots-1869.html - Cached - Similar
'The Riot at Mold, Flintshire', 1869 (wood engraving) This wood engraving of the riot in Moldwas published in 'The Illustrated London News' in June 1869. ... www.gtj.org.uk/en/small/item/GTJ18442/ - Cached - Similar
18 Mar 2007 ... The Mold Riots by Michael Stevens. In 1869 two men from Leeswood Green Colliery were found guilty of an assault on their underground manager ... www.mikrokosmos.co.uk/Mold%20Riots.htm - Cached - Similar
3 Jun 2005 ... In the summer of 1869 a riot occurred in the town of Mold in North Wales which had considerable effects on the future policing of public ... welshpedia.co.uk/wiki/wales/index.php?title=The_Mold_Riot - Cached
The grit of local miners in the Mold area is evident in the details of the 1869 Mold Riot. It started with the coming of a new Mine manager - John Young at ... www.iknow-wales.co.uk/.../mold_flintshire_wales.htm - Cached - Similar
To follow 'Four Weeks of Lawless' in Amlwch 1817 and other Corn Riots.
I am not needs be going to argue the case of Owain Glyndwr and the cause of a native Welsh Aristocracy, nor provide reasons as to the why I consider this war, an Anti - Colonial War of National Liberation. I will leave all that to Embassy Glyndwr, see link below:
6 Sep 2010 ... Owain Glyndwr Communicates. Promoting an interest in the history of Owain Glyndwr, the Welsh Son of Prophecy, his life, times and society ... owain-glyndwr-embassyllysgenhadaeth.blogspot.com/ - Cached - Similar
My purpose here is quite simply to argue the case that Welsh Socialists do not stick their heads where the Sun does not shine and ignore a Wales before 1831, not least Merthyr Tudful's present day comrades being mindful as I am that Merthyr was perhaps the first place in Wales to have an Owain Glyndwr pub no longer in existence mores the shame but there is one in Cardiff and another in Corwen. Pubs aside other than noting that some of Glyndwr's chief supporters were not in main the 'posh bards' but 'Y Clerwyr', the minstrels those today we might regard as 'Buskers' not your typical folk musician on a grant that abound in our times. This is why I have time for 'Buskers' and give them money, mindful as I am that it was the likes of these that were as 'Clerwyr Glyndwr' in and out of the Tafarns singing of old prophecies and of better days to come with the coming of a 'Son of Prophecy'.
Elizabeth I would find 'Y Clerwyr' so bothersome and promoters of trouble she would call the 'Posh' Bards to hold two Eisteddfods at Caerwys, in 'Cymraeg' by the way, so no suppression there. That was because they did the English Crowns bidding to get the 'Bardic Proffession' sussed, sorted and self censored with reward of a Tudor Licence to continue in their largelly grovelling to the gentry trade. Oh yes! they also had to sort out 'Y Clerwyr' and no doubt they did but perhaps only driving them more underground and back into the high mountains, wild woodlands and caves of their secret Wales. This was the Country of the Welsh Outlaw; Adar y Greim and later Gwerin Owain down to the 'Banditti Cambria' of 16th Century Wales whom would also exercise the mind of the Tudor Regime and give 'Hanging Judge Rowland Lee much work hunting down thieves and cut throats as well as 'Welsh Outlaws', possibly an Outlaw Welsh Resistence aka 'Social Bandits', see link:
Social bandit or social crime is a term invented by the historian Eric Hobsbawm in his 1965 classic study of popular forms of resistance, Primitive Rebels. ...
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Whatever, the romance aside lets take a closer look at 'Glyndwr and all that', what therein could possibly interest Welsh Socialists. Well, if you have the time of day for the history of English Democracy and Parliamentary History, then you should have time for Senedd Glyndwr 1404 as something unique went on here and is as worthy of interest and attentive study as Simon de Montforts Parliament of 1265. Not least Welsh Socialists who might have time of day for the English Peasants Revolt 1381 might consider the social aspects of the 'Glyndwr War'. Note in particular that at this time the population of Wales as about 550.000 and the population of England in area of 3 Million, plus they had a mighty European Military Machine of Castles and Fuedal Levies. Not least the capabilities of massive arms production plus military organisation and all this before the Industrial Revolution was as amazing as it would be when Britain started to carve out a pre Industrial 'World Empire' from Canada to India.
However, as we witness in Afghanistan and have in Vietnam etc, the Welsh 'War of the Flea' tactics would serve them well in the beginning at in the final years would prolong the war as a 'Guerrilla War' of continuing resistence in the wilds of Eryri up to 1421, if not beyond in the 'Gwerin Owain' and other outlaw troubles that lasted into the age of the 'Red Bandits', Plant Matt and Twm Sion Catti. Such would have not been possible with out the input of a large number of the ''Lower Orders'', that is the Serfs, Bond Men and Anglo - Norman Tennants 'Liberated' by Owain Glyndwr to swell the ranks of his growing army. Without doubt for the most part a Peasant Army, this is often over looked by many historians, writters and not least by Welsh Patriots and also Welsh Socialists too.
The 'Glyndwr War' is often seen in the light of the damage it caused and depending where you stand, the blame is placed on either Glyndwr's side or by the English. No doubt about it, the English Invaders had always been good at laying waste to Wales, so too no doubt Glyndwr's forces came down heavy on Colonial Castle Towns and economic targets as mills etc. However, I suspect that much of the damage was also caused by the 'lower orders' as is the case in most wars but the 'liberated Welsh Peasants' would have known in latter years of the war there was no 'going home' for them and thus pillaged and plundered and run off with much to their 'Secret Wales'.
The above proably paints a picture of 'Glyndwr's War' you might not be aware of, do remember that the preceding century was a time of great European Famine that caused Social protest and Popular Revolt. Wales in the 14th century had witnessed the birth of the Mercenary and the 'Rebel' seen very well in the Welsh Revolts of 1315 in the South and 1345 in the North. The 14th century would witness increasingly a down ward mobile former Welsh 'Freeman' to join a native peasantry not so upwardly mobile as their English Counterparts due the the Colonial Order in Wales that militated against most Welsh People; Socially, Economically and Racially. I am convinced that Wales would have witnessed a major revolt despite Owain Glyndwr and not because of him but, at end of the day revolts kick off better when there are charismatic leaders be they Sparticus or Zapata, so why not same regards Caradog and Glyndwr?
In conclusion consider this at start of the 'Glyndwr War', Lord Gray Owain's 'Bete Noir' had an 185 Serfs, at end of the war only eight, yes 8! So where had they all gone? now multiply so many lords and so many serfs and you get an idea possibly a good idea that when I say Glyndwr's forces were largelly a 'Peasant Army' that's a fact. Perhaps further backed up by this is te following little gem from records of the times, concerning surrender of 'Welsh Rebels' on Ynys Mon. The account states the names of the 'notables' but then says there were many whose names were not worth mentioning,''of little or no use''.Men it seems of 'No Consequence', all I can say is thanks for the men of 'No Consequence!' obviously those 'Barefoot Welsh Doggis' who the English find annoying enough to make a record of. So, if your not up for celebrating Owain Glyndwr and Welsh nobles then celebrate those of 'No Consequence!' in whose footsteps others have followed down thru the ages.
Twm Siôn Cati – Welsh Outlaw from Tregaron in Tudor times, ended up mayor of Brecon · James Hind – 17th century highwayman; John Clavell – English ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlaw - Cached - Similar
Later 16th century 'Banditti Cambria' also in 16th century beginnings of a Land war and note a ''Tax Revolt'' in Dolgellau 1498, 16 century 'Arson War' in ... redremembrancer.blogspot.com/.../welsh-popular-struggles-and-strikes.html
5 Jan 2008 ... The Southern troubles 1314 – 1318: Introduction to the 1315 Llywelyn BrenRebellion. See also my other post on a Welsh St Valentines Day ... brwydr.blogspot.com/.../revolt-of-llywelyn-bren-1316.html - Cached - Similar
10 Feb 2007 ... Instead, in Wales, there occurred a rise in crime and outlawry as men took to the great woodlands to become “Adar y Griem”. ... welshpatriot.blogspot.com/.../cymru-1345-st-valentines-day-massacre.html -Cached - Similar
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Too bad nothing came of the Gwerin Owain Free Festival(really hoping there!)
perhaps next year make it a medieval 'dress up' like a Welsh Outlaw gathering?
C'mon lets make this cause, not so bloody boring and just about parades & pints!
19 Aug 2010 ... CAMPAIGN FOR A FREE FESTIVAL: GWYL RYDD GWERIN OWAIN VYRNWY AUGUST BANK HOLIDAY - THE LONGEST WEEKEND IN WELSH HISTORY? ... ymgyrch.blogspot.com/.../campaign-for-free-festival-gwyl-rydd.html - Cached
