.I found the following whilst surfing around the Welsh Web Wonderland, this item I found on a Nationalist Blog: Misarable Old Fart in a post titled: And they wonder why I hate socialism! it goes on: The following quote is from a socialist who wishes to arrange a counter demonstration against the St David's day parade in Cardiff. It is typical of the socialist mindset. Read it and understand why I hate the fact that the likes of Adam Price, Bethan Jenkins and Leanne Wood have dragged Plaid Cymru into the socialist mire. Socialism and Nationalism are clearly incompatible ideologies. Plaid must decide either nationalism or socialism it can't be both!
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The Item complained about:
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As we know over the last few years the nationalists have stepped up their attempts to impose conformity and their bigoted ideology on our locale, they will be using St David's Day to impose the idea that Wales is a nation cosily united - rich and poor - against English oppression and waving their flags. They will be attempting to construct a 'welsh identity' that never existed and various other ideas that mystify social reality, class division and block the forming of genuine grassroots culture based on solidarity and diy principles. It's time to organise a class war counter parade stating clearly -No nations! No borders!Internationalism and solidarity! The working class has no country! Somebody Welsh on the minimum wage has more in common with an English or Polish worker than a welsh millionaire!We will create our own culture from below that is fluid and dynamic not have some fake culture based on nationalism, patriotism and other authoritarian and servile crap forced upon us.
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Originally sourced from the following, see via link here: St David's Day - COUNTER DEMO - urban75 forums Last edited by Dic Penderyn : 12-02-2008 at 15:06. ..... Much as I detest the St David's Day parade's vacuous flag-waving, I'm tempted to organise a ...www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=7101678 - 126k - Cached - Similar pages
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My Comment: A Bit O.T.T. Comrade, better things to demonstrate against than against a Dewi Day Parade, like for instance Brit Army recruiters at work in Caerdydd on Dydd Dewi or is England's Foreign wars no longer a big issue with the ''Ultra Brit Left'' in Cymru. I am not totally opposed to some of your Socialist sentiments but try and get it into your head Wales was, maybe still is England's First Colony and take your socialist reasoning from this strarting point. Welsh History is not all Princes you know, the Welsh Revolt of 1294 was very much a Popular Rebellion and Glyndwr's war very much a peasants revolt. Lord Grey, Glyndwr's arch enemy had 184 Serfs at start of War but at it's conclusion he only had eight left. Whatever, yes, I am up for some Class or as I would call it, 'CRACHWAR' but may I suggest that if you want to demonstrate on Dydd Dewi why not protest against the Politicians down in Old Tiger Bay, instead of having a go at Dydd Dewi Paraders, take your 'Angry Anxt' out on the likes of ENGLISH LORD 'Dic Sion' Dafydd Elis Thomas who will be on steps of the 'Assembly of Appeasement' on Dydd Dewi to greet the Annual Saint David's Day Parade.
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The Parade, which is sponsored in main by Cambria Magazine with the backing of the National Assembly for Wales and Cardiff Council, will start from the National Museum of Wales at 1.15pm and end at the Assembly at 2.15. Everybody is invited to join the parade or welcome the marchers when they arrive at the Assembly. If you do intend to protest keep it peaceful with some good practical and positive purpose, not least because children are about in the parade and at the Assembly to learn about Democracy and politics, as how to vote for Politicians. So. I guess it's alright to teach the children how to protest against Politicians too, after all the right to hold protest Demonstrations is also an essential requirement in any Democracy. Right on then!.
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Lotta Continua!
Gethin Gruffydd.
